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PostPosted: February 5th, 2020, 10:13 am 
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For the past few months I've been beginning to tie. Learning anything is a process and I'm fine with learning by my mistakes. I'm enrolled in a class in Brewer with the Penobscot Fly Fishers club and enjoying the heck out of it. The beginner patterns are pretty simple and designed to build basic skills. The class has about 25 students and at least a dozen club-member volunteers as helpers along with the instructor. It's a fun night.

Back home on my own I've attempted a couple of patterns that I actually want to fish—the RS2 and the SASH that Mike suggests. So far, I alternate between one step forward and two steps back on each of those patterns. I'm determined though, and the day I manage to successfully tie in those $#@ Da%n Microfibbet tails on the RS2 will be a great day of celebration and ceremony (the ceremony will be me dousing a package of microfibbets with gasoline and setting them on fire).

But I've strayed from my original intent. As a beginner, I don't know what I don't know. So I'm wondering if you more experienced tyers would be willing to share those fly tying purchases you made in the past that proved worthless or remain un-used on your bench. When I get frustrated and bored I start looking at J. Stockard catalogs etc. and your suggestions might save me a bunch of time and money. Thanks!


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PostPosted: February 5th, 2020, 11:05 am 
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I can help with those microfibbets. While you can tie in a bump of thread and use that to splay the microfibbets, I prefer a different method.
And they're easy to get perfect every time with this technique. Here goes:

Step 1: Tie a scrap piece of tying thread onto the hook. Leave it danging off of the back of the hook.
Step 2: Tie on your microfibbets, leaving your desired tail length hanging off the back.
Step 3: Bring the scrap segment of thread up between the microfibbets and pull forward, using the thread pressure to set the microfibbets to the desired angle of splay.
Step 4: Tie off the segment of scrap thread, being careful to wrap thread back to lock the microfibbets angle of splay into place and complete the rest of the fly.

You're welcome in advance. Best- Hunter.

edited to add- I never regret buying fly tying material. I have a LOT of stuff I haven't found the right use for yet, but I don't regret buying any of it.

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PostPosted: February 5th, 2020, 11:07 am 
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Strung Hackle. When I first started tying ( many, many decades ago......yikes!) I thought I’d save money by buying strung Hackle instead of capes. That #### is just junk feathers. Mostly useless. Bite the bullet and buy the capes.......much cheaper, and better, in the long run.

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PostPosted: February 5th, 2020, 6:56 pm 
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Strung hackle is a good one. I’ll double down on that.

Pretty much anything that I bought special to tie a pattern I have found in a magazine.

I would have to say dry fly hackle is an area of major under use. Stick with 100 packs until you’re really committed.

Tool kits and material kits. They always have things I don’t need or want. Just buy what you need individually.

Go slow on jungle cock.

Silver pheasant skin, to tie exactly 12 grey ghosts

Uv resin, but I just haven’t spend the time with it.

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PostPosted: February 5th, 2020, 7:30 pm 
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Swiss Straw. There are a few uses for it but I really don't use it much.

Synthetics in general. I just like tying with natural materials. I'd never tie another Bead Head Minnow if that damn Angle Hair pattern didn't catch so many fish.


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PostPosted: February 5th, 2020, 10:01 pm 
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PostPosted: February 6th, 2020, 2:02 am 
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In general, I agree that people should go slow in buying dry fly capes, but, when you get serious about tying and want to tie dry flies, you will want them.

I was looking for something else on the web and found this site, with a great deal that will give you 5 quality half capes in brown, grizzly, dun, cream and black, for $100. Unless you are a professional tyer, that's years of dry fly hackle in most of the colors you will want.

Never purchased from them, so can't vouch for the company, but it's Whiting hackle, and that is about the best on the market.



Scroll down--there are bulk deals for any 5 colors of your choice for $125, and a "TU Starter Kit" with the colors above for $100. (So far as I know, no official TU sponsorship of this seller.)

Things I regret? A cane rod I bought before I knew enough to know what I wanted; a bead collection that could outfit a major fly shop; an entire silver pheasant cape; a jungle cock neck.


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PostPosted: February 6th, 2020, 7:33 am 
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Tinsnip- Hunter is right...that is how I do all my tails for dries.

I regret buying a Regal Vice...GREAT vice, but now that Parker egged me into using the rotary function of my Renzetti, I wish I hadn't gone Regal first. Oh- while here, DO use the rotary function-it works.

I wish I had waited to buy necks until I knew enough to buy necks. I have bought off brand hooks that are incredably bad in small sizes- wish I had not tried to "save" money. I have thrown them all away.

While it is not a regret, I wish I had a USE for many of the thing I did buy- but no longer use.

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LL Bean waders :lol:

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As I think over the close to 40 years I’ve been tying, there have been so many different things that I’ve bought that fall in the hind site category. Yes at the time they seemed correct for what I had in mind. From tools, to adhesives, hooks, and materials at one time or another the impulse to buy gene over came the do I really need that gene. If only the hoe it all out and get rid of it gene would kick in. I’m a pack rat and I admit it, but I’m sure it’s not going to kill me to have some of the “stuff” still although my material cabinet is about all, at this stage of my life I can, still carry up a set of stairs. Hopefully in 75 +/- days will be the last time I move it all.
Needs vs wants vs why! Will always be a dilemma, at least with me.

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PostPosted: February 6th, 2020, 4:28 pm 
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I regret buying my first fly rod. Ever since then I am always one short of having what I need


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PostPosted: February 6th, 2020, 5:26 pm 
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I just thought of another one. As the price of premium hooks has sky-rocketed, I once tried some off brand hooks. I thought.....they can’t be that bad, can they? Ahhhhh......yup.......they were. Just freaking junk. I bet I threw away at least half, maybe more. At that rate, they were probably more expensive than Tiemco, or Daiichi’s.

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PostPosted: February 6th, 2020, 6:58 pm 
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Beware of the Feather Emporium, a lot of horror stories out there of people not getting there order even after they paid for it. I was going to order from there and stayed away.


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