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PostPosted: January 12th, 2020, 10:38 am 
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What makes a good partridge skin good? Need some help there.

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Thin, flexible stems on the feathers, small feathers, good combination of gray mottled and brown mottled feathers. If your skin has feathers that are, for the most part, too large, Mike Holt has a great video about how to tie them in on the shank facing forward, wrap your thread up to the hook eye, and fold them back to make a Soft Hackle collar that fits perfectly.

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Feather size and quality. How big are the feathers? And are there a lot of broken barbs or are the feathers whole. Also, how was the skin prepared? Does it feel oily or dry to the touch?

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Free. Free is always good. But I don't skin my partridge--I just pluck the feathers I like and roughly sort them.

Ruffed grouse or Hungarian?

Woodcock and sora rail also give excellent soft hackles in smaller sizes. I'm not sure either is available commercially.


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Jeff, free is always good! Thanks for the info to the others.


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Crisp but not burnt with a pinch of salt. Preferably done over an open fire/coals.

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Ken - you need/want a grouse/partridge skin? I've got several full skins that are dry (using borax). I've asked, but not had any takers.

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I have more partridge feathers than I’ll ever use. Not skins. It just happens that the hunters I know are very generous...I have three large ziplock bags of plucked game bird feathers. Two bags of grouse and one pheasant from a family member who bagged a bunch of stocked pheasant on a private property in VT.
If anyone cares to put up a list of their favorite soft hackle patterns I would be most interested and thankful.
The pheasant feather colors are awesome.

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If you have a grab bag of feathers then you've a bunch of feathers that are larger than standard trout fly sizes.
Here's a link to a pretty good fly and the video shows you a way to use some of the oversized stuff.


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Great info everyone and thanks Mark for the skin.

Hunter- P+O is one of my favorites too. Tying up Shakey Bealys now for what has become my annual trip west.

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You'll enjoy the book Hunter. I have books by Sylvester Nemes, Pete Hidy and Dave Hughes along with this one by McGee. If I lost my library and had to start over I'd buy McGee's book first.


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