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 Post subject: Unappreciated flies.....
PostPosted: February 5th, 2019, 5:24 pm 
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I was at the vise this morning tying up a dozen, or so, of what I think might just be the most unappreciated flies in our collective Arsenal’s.......bead head Sunken Spinners.

This am I happened to be tying up PMD’s (18) for the Livingston Spring Creeks, but these can be tied in various sizes to match Hendrickson’s, Cornutas, etc.

I was once told by a Guide that I appreciate his knowledge that for every trout we see on top feeding there are five to ten feeding away under water that we don’t even know are there. This pattern takes them.

Hook: TMC 100;Daiichi 1180; or your preferred dry fly hook
Bead: Appropriate to hook size
Thread: Uni 8/0 color to suit
Tail: Whiting tailing pack......tied long
Abdomen: Turkey Biot color to suit
Thorax: Color to suit (beaver; rabbit; or Superfine)
Wing: White or light dun z-Lon; tied spent
Hackle: Hungarian Partridge tied Soft Hackle Style.

Try it......you won’t be disappointed. We use this pattern in a 22 tied to match Sunken Trikes on the Missouri and the Bighorn. It’s deadly......

Dave M

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PostPosted: February 5th, 2019, 6:11 pm 
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Pictures speak 1000... or, I did these 7 weeks ago. Killer. secret. Tell NOBODY. Use purple glass beads...#20/22s...throw out onto water- quick twitch to sink it, and come tight to the line.

Yellow w/ green thorax could be a fly to have... just sayin'

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PostPosted: February 5th, 2019, 8:29 pm 
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Dave - can you post a picture?

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PostPosted: February 5th, 2019, 9:36 pm 
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Photo from Hutch, too. Curious where the wing is on Dave's fly. Down wing a la caddis?


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PostPosted: February 6th, 2019, 8:17 am 
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Ken B wrote:
Dave - can you post a picture?

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Ken......

I can easily post it on my personalFacebook page easily. I’m sure I could also post it on the FFIM Facebook page, but truthfully, I don’t know how to do that.

With Photosuckit shitting the bed (at least for me) it wouldn’t work to get it onto this thread.

Of course, I could send a pic via email to one of the Moderators and they could post it.


Jeff.........

You can do the wing two different ways. No.....not downwing like a Caddis.
Put on the wing exactly like you would with a floating Spinner........or t(way Kelly Galloup does it........
Vertically.

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PostPosted: February 6th, 2019, 9:42 am 
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Dave, email it to me, I'll put it up.


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PostPosted: February 6th, 2019, 10:19 am 
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Mike Holt wrote:
Dave, email it to me, I'll put it up.



Mike......

Sure. Pm me your email addy

Dave M

PS. I found an old email addy for you......if it’s still good I sent you three pics. The first is the vertical winged version, the second is the regular version with horizontal wings like a regular Spinner, and 5he third is that #22 Trico Sunken Spinners that we use so successfully on the Missouri and the Horn

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PostPosted: February 6th, 2019, 5:17 pm 
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Dave M's flies

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PostPosted: February 6th, 2019, 7:33 pm 
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Thanks Dave and Mike. I like and will give a tie!


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PostPosted: February 6th, 2019, 8:49 pm 
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Thanks for posting this. I will definitely be tying some of these. I’ve always been frustrated fishing a spinner fall. It’s always been obvious to me that the fish were feeding sub-surface more than on top, but I never knew how to imitate what was going on. Kelly Galloup does a good job explaining what is going on in this video.
https://youtu.be/JlYD9P_0fa8


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PostPosted: February 7th, 2019, 7:30 am 
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I tie the second and third pix...but I use colored glass beads to highlight...

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PostPosted: February 7th, 2019, 7:50 am 
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Is a glass bead adequate to sink all that poly yarn? Do you fish like a nymph under an indicator? Or as a dropper?

The soft hackle in #1 is interesting.... just a spinner with hackle on the front?

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PostPosted: February 7th, 2019, 9:51 am 
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TGIF-
The glass gives a color I like (often purple or red) and will sink the fly once wet...but not deep. I want this fly about 2-4 inches down, but no much further. When I see shoulders but no lips, I use this type of fly, as I think they are on sunken spinners or trapped emergers. The reason I posted " give it a twitch" was to sink it at the start....but when in doubt, a super small split shot can work too.

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PostPosted: February 7th, 2019, 10:09 am 
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Yeah.......I fish mine a little deeper than Hutch.......maybe 6 to 8 inches.......perhaps a foot down, but not on the bottom like you would a Nymph........up in the water column.

I usually fish these on a 20” dropper behind a dry fly. During a Trike Spinner Fall I like the point fly to be a Double Trike tied on a size 18 hook as the dry, and the short shank 20 as the Sunken Spinner. This is the fly that we absolutely hammered 5he trout on the Missouri last summer with, then duplicated it with on the Horn.

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PostPosted: February 7th, 2019, 10:20 am 
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TMarchetti thanks for the link that was an interesting video. Made me pull my copy of Cripples and Spinners out and spend some time going through it.
I suspect the after and before the hatch stuff Galloup is discussing in the video is part of why I have good luck with Hidy's flymphs.


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