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 Post subject: Zelon is it Better?
PostPosted: February 13th, 2016, 5:01 pm 
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Is zelon better than other dubbing? I have antron kit, sparkle yarns, Ligas, Ice dub. Will zelon float better? :? :?

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 Post subject: Re: Zelon is it Better?
PostPosted: February 13th, 2016, 6:51 pm 
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I don't know about floating better ,but I think in makes better trailing shucks


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 Post subject: Re: Zelon is it Better?
PostPosted: February 13th, 2016, 11:00 pm 
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Gary Lafontaine brought Antron to the table. His research showed that trilobal antron held air bubbles that resembled the gas bubbles produced by emerging insects. I don't think that zelon has the same properties, but I'm not a scientist, nor have I ever tied with it other than for shucks. I guess preference of material depends on the application.


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 Post subject: Re: Zelon is it Better?
PostPosted: February 13th, 2016, 11:06 pm 
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I have only used it for shucks and some wings, but only with other wing material. I have seen some patterns where zelon is the only wing, Irish caddis comes to mind, but I could be wrong.

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 Post subject: Re: Zelon is it Better?
PostPosted: February 14th, 2016, 10:14 am 
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I believe that Zelon, unlike Antron, doesn't "clump" together when wet (I think this comes from John Betts, who introduced Zelon to th fly tying world) which is why it makes a superior shuck. There's also a tyer on the Bamboo list that uses Zelon instead of hackle for very small dries, so I guess it floats too.


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 Post subject: Re: Zelon is it Better?
PostPosted: February 15th, 2016, 11:25 am 
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Thanks guess I should get some and try it. Thought Mr. M might have a comment.

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 Post subject: Re: Zelon is it Better?
PostPosted: February 15th, 2016, 4:24 pm 
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tyron wrote:
Thanks guess I should get some and try it. Thought Mr. M might have a comment.



If by "Mr. M" you meant me...then yeah...I guess I do.

I only use z-lon for trailing shucks and as a re-inforcing for deer hair wings (e.g. X-2 Caddis (underwing) and Improved Sparkle Duns.

I use antron dubbing (from Blue Ribbon) for Caddis bodies. Those #20 Black Caddis' I referenced earklier use z-lon dubbing; but that's a different prooduct from regular (i.e. strung) z-lon.

As someone said above z-lon doesn't clump; whereas regular antron sometimes does. As I understand it Dupont stopped making z-lon; so Blue Ribbon Flies and John Betts (supposedly) bought up the entire world's supply of the stuff. I'll be bummed big time if we run out before I stop being able to tie flies. I love that stuff.

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 Post subject: Re: Zelon is it Better?
PostPosted: February 15th, 2016, 7:28 pm 
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Thank you sir guess I'll try the stuff :)

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